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Mystex
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« on: July 14, 2006, 06:33:23 AM »
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Bigelow Areospace might have presented us with what we need to get a platform up in space for the start of the SE. Plus it would also allow us to have facilities in space where technicians could be to watch things coming up.

What do you all think?
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2006, 02:05:36 PM »
The Bigelow success in early August 2006, may be expandable to a GEO orbit habitat, which may be a necessary complication to the SE
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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2006, 05:57:48 AM »
Well it might be a complication but it could also be a boon, if an inflatible hab is just as safe and cheaper than anything else we could launch to act as the anchor platform it might be better for us.
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2006, 06:58:15 AM »
problem: you know how even the current (us) stations are built? they send up the module with half the stuff in them, then launch several supply missions that gradually build up the facilities inside. an inflatable station will probably have next to nothing inside except air and minimal avionics. you're gonna need to launch a whole lot more stuff to fill it up.
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2006, 10:24:11 AM »
Well it might be feasible to launch quite a few payloads at once, or perhaps contract with bigelow since he wants to build a hotel in space anyways. Then he could worry about getting them up there and getting a crew for it since he can use it right away for his hotel and while he's doing that the se could be started. (yes I know not a thorougly thought out argument but I dont' quite have the time for that right now) Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2006, 05:00:17 AM »
A Biglow hotel at 36,000 kilometers is about 12 times closer than the Moon to Earth distance and the Earth has about 3 times the diameter of the moon, so the Earth would appear about 36 times wider than the moon from a GEO altitude hotel.The disk would have 1296 times the apparent area of the moon as viewed from Earth. That may be the most impressive viewing distance for Earth.   Neil
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2006, 01:14:41 PM »
Think how much of draw it would be for tourism let alone everything else if there were a bigelow hotel at the other end of the SE. This trully could be a mutually beneficial idea.
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« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2006, 05:56:04 AM »
While the press seems to like to talk about a Bigelow space hotel, that is not the near term goal.  From the Bigelow website...
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Validate expandable structures as a certified spaceflight technology. Provide a low-cost, low earth orbit (LEO) human-rated space complex that is accessible to the commercial sector. Develop an affordable and flexible space complex architecture that can be adapted for any manned or unmanned mission requiring a large pressurized volume. Provide a ground-based infrastructure that the commercial and public entities sector can utilize for developing low-cost, space-based missions.
While there will need to be a place for people who work in space to sleep, it is not the same thing as a resort hotel.
The SE will no doubt one day be used by tourists, it is being built for more substantial and sustainable uses than just or primarily tourism.
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2006, 03:37:51 AM »
you could deffinitely use bigallow for the GEO station (see science and technology, GEO space station) most likely in association with spacehab, other space industries and agencies.
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2006, 05:24:47 AM »
See thats exactly what I think.  We're going to need something at the GEO end of the elevator and this would fit that bill nicely. Since they're doing their own testing and research on this it would save liftport from having to do this.
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2006, 07:56:01 AM »
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See thats exactly what I think.  We're going to need something at the GEO end of the elevator and this would fit that bill nicely. Since they're doing their own testing and research on this it would save liftport from having to do this.


Just on general principle, I think the station should be called 'Freeside'.   =D  

And yes, I'd second the general idea that it may be a good idea to partner with these guys.  They've got their own agenda, however, and their own finances to worry about.  If they ask LiftPort for any money, I'd run away.  The LiftPort and Bigelow hotel(s) have mutual interests, but are independent of each other.  I'd say that, until either get up in space, be careful about getting involved in their operations.  Once LiftPort gets a space elevator operational, these kinds of pieces will suddenly all fall into place.  Until then, Bigelow could be a time-suck, brain-drain, and money-pit for LiftPort.  So, while I think they would be a good group to partner with, I'd have to qualify that on the condition that they're partnered with at the right time.
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